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is rolled back obama initiatives, cut spending. a lot that the debt ceiling should not be increased under a circumstances where they feel like i was a failure. but they basically believe their job is first to obstruct barack obama and once there is a republican president in place to pass this initiatives that create better business climate. more and more deregulation committee funding of programs that have never quite been near and dear to them. i think they do believe -- of course to fast-forward a bit about the debt ceiling fiasco of 2011, but after the summer we were taken to the brink of a fiscal cliff, one we are about to see it it can come in to thinking part of the house republican leadership was maybe her tea party freshman will go home, get yelled at by constituents and they'll realize this compromise is not such a bad thing. the opposite occurred. he went home and people go to town halls tend to be the activists of their party and those people tend to be tea party and everyone screaming, why did you accept a deal? you said you would not under any circumstances read the debt ceil
in what is said anymore. if you look at the record of spending -- mr. forbes mentioned mr. obama's spending being higher than the bush years. that is not true. the deficit which increases our debt grew so much under obama because he put both wars into the budget. george bush kept them out of the budget, was not paying for them, so things looked good. in the first few years of the obama administration, he created more jobs than george bush did in eight years. george bush's comment was the surpluses are for spending. he put us in massive debt, left it on obama. these people sit here and watch these idiots on tv say these things are not true. and then they go and push based on what they're hearing instead of looking into the fact of the matter. host: mr. forbes? guest: i did make mention that spending did increase dramatically under george bush. no matter how you account for the wars, domestic spending under president obama increased very substantially to the point that it is the highest it has been without a world war. that is why we're getting these massive deficits today. we have
, and that republicans will concede they do not have anything else. they will kick the can down the obama has not shown the leadership that he showed, last caller. it is a matter of spending. the government has gotten out of control in washington, d.c. both parties are guilty. this last president as the most gelt, and certainly bush also had his problems with spending, but if i was a republican senator, i would not vote for anything without at least a $6 trillion tax cut, and that would include wages of our government employees. i hate to say that, but they have to take a hard stand, and that is where i stand here fiscal cliff, it looks like we are coming. host: happy new year. a live picture inside the u.s. capitol, expecting the possibility of senators coming out to speak after their party's caucuses. we're waiting until 3:00 this afternoon, the meeting at the white house, where c-span coverage will continue. we had a chance this morning that the discussion with a capitol hill reporter to get his take on the fiscal cliff negotiations. let's take a look at that now. host: good morning to you. since we
: yes, an industry to find out why it be government cannot balance the budget and spend -- have you ever spent your checkbook? you would go to jail. they do not. what about that? host: ok. salisbury, missouri. go ahead, please. caller: i do not understand why president obama was doing at that rally. he needs to get in his car and go on down to the capital and try to figure out this mess. he himself and the democrats and republicans all equally created it. he is a democrat and he needs to take the leadership role and he has not done that. he does most to be the cheerleader and the champion. i am tired of the democrats'. host: ok, we will go to fort lauderdale, fla.. caller: i am very disappointed that the president has failed to be, has chosen to create an environment of blame, which is not good for anyone. we did not really have this class warfare before. there is all this talk, but nothing about the real issue which is the debt. i am more worried about the future generations, bankrupting the future generations. and by not dealing with entitlements, what are we going to do? and he always
combining it. president obama stated something similar for the future. he said we should take half of the war fund and use it for deficit and half for people programs. and he stated that we spend more than the top ten countries in the military come bind and it's disproportionate, we can do that. can we really do that with the military contractors doing what eisenhower long ago says the is the military industrial complex, can we do that? is that better than to pull the money from social security and medicare where -- remember i told you worked for the chief of the staff aging committee under him. and he worked so hard to protect social security and medicare. and the deal we have protects it to 2035 and beyond if the economy improves. seniors have paid in to social security and medicare and actually there is a surplus because of that which is what the folks are trying to pull out of and use for these other purposes now. isn't it better to do what president obama has proposed and perhaps if we have the political will to use some of the military funding for our deficit situation? >> i
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